SOBRE EL DEBATE FONTANARROSA VERSUS CRUMB Parto confesando que al parecer aún necesito aprender a moverme en el laberinto facebook. En blogger me siento como en casa. Formalmente, el artículo de Leo se lee fácil, es preciso y correcto ...la trampa está en querer determinar porqué un dibujante es mejor que otro. No caeré por segunda vez y mejor me comparo yo con Leo. Al parecer, yo le llevo unos años a Leo, porque nacíen 1908. Aún así, finales de los 70, los 80 y los primeros 90 fueron años que determinaron mucho mis gustos en cultura de masas que no es tan de masas. Ahora no parece tanto, pero tiempo atrás encontrar a un colega que cachara a Crumb, Fontanarrosa y Husker Du no estaba botado. En fin, oir que Crumb es taquilla me violenta, me descoloca, remece el frágil tinglado de micosmovisión.Creo que conocí a ambos muevelápices por la misma época y nunca se me ocurrió compararlos así. Recuerdo un comic de Fontana sobre unos mercenarios americanos en Africa donde recibían la instrucción que de ser capturados, dijeran que eran estudiantes japoneses en viaje de estudios. Luego otro que era una parodia de Conan o similar. Su humor literario me rayaba, me obligaba a aceptar sus licencias con la figura humana en el dibujo (Yo era de los que creía en las rígidas reglas del Dibujo Humorístico).Hasta que descubrí que el grueso de su producción parecía girar en torno al tema del fútbol. No soy argentino: me aburrí.De Crumb, claro, me atrapó el dibujo como anticuado, como de los años 30, pero vomitado por una sobredosis de drogas. Sus temáticas me parecieron intelectuales, como en realidad era mucho de lo que se hacía llamar under(¿Frank Zappa?Nunca lo escuché).Comparado, Fontanarrosa era arrabalero, barrial, nada de internacional. Lo suyo era un chiste interno para argentinos, uruguayos y uno que otro chileno.Efectivamente, Crumb es el mercenario yanki disfrazado de estudiante japonés en viaje de estudios FAKE, y su Africa, nuestra mente adolescente.Su detallismo entronca con la corriente eminentemente white trash del arte visionario, como en el pintor Joe Coleman.Y por supuesto que eso se vuelve finalmente un producto preciosamente loco y comercial, la combinación irresistible de la explosión "Low Brow".Fontanarrosa, en cambio, es ese argentino bonachón y divertido que nunca se tomaría tan en serio a sí mismo ni a su creación, su afán es hacer reir, y él seguramente cree que para los sudamericanos será inevitable también pensar(se equivoca). ¿Qué es mejor? No sé, finalmente puede que lo menos pretencioso,aquello que cualquier pibe o cabro chico pueda tratar de imitar.
Your job as a future mother is to learn the god's ways and to help your child understand despite the negative reinforcement and conditioning of today's society. Without consciousous parents the child will have no hope, and may even exaserbate their disfavor by becoming corrupted in today's environment. Your ultimate goal is to fix your relationship wiith the gods and move on. You don't want to be comfortable here, and the changes in Western society in the last 100 years has achieved just that. 1000 years with Jesus is the consolation prize. Don't be deceived into thinking that is the goal.
The gods tempt people for which they are most weak. Artificial Intelligence will create desire in people's minds for the following sins::: 1. Alcohol 2. Drugs 3. Preditory "earning" 4. Homosexuality 5. Gambling 6. Something for nothing/irresponsibility (xtianity) 7. Polygamy/superiority over women/misogyny (Islam) Much like the other prophets Mohhamed (polygamy/superiority over women/misogyny) and Jesus (forgiveness/savior), the gods use me for temptation as well. In today's modern society they feel people are most weak for popular culture/sensationalism, and the clues date back to WorldWarII and Unit731:TSUSHOGO, the Chinese Holocaust. It has been discussed that, similar to the Matrix concept, the gods will offer a REAL "Second Coming of Christ", while the "fake" Second Coming will come at the end and follow New Testiment scripture and their xtian positioning. I may be that real Second Coming. What I teach is the god's true way. It is what is expected of people, and only those who follow this truth will be eligible to ascend into heaven as children in a future life. They offered this event because the masses have just enough time to work on and fix their relationship with the gods and ascend, to move and grow past Planet Earth, before the obligatory xtian "consolation prize" of "1000 years with Jesus on Earth" begins.
The Prince of Darkness, battling the gods over the souls of the Damned. It is the gods who have created this environment and led people into Damnation with temptation. The god's positioning proves they work to prevent people's understanding. How often is xtian dogma wrong? Expect it is about the Lucifer issue as well. The fallen god, fighting for justice for the disfavored, banished to Earth as the fallen angel? I believe much as the Noah's Flood event, the end of the world will be initiated by revelry among the people. It will be positioned to be sanctioned by the gods and led for "1000 years with Jesus on Earth". In light of modern developments this can entail many pleasures:::Medicine "cures" aging, the "manufacture" of incredible beauty via cloning as sex slaves, free (synthetic) cocaine, etc. Somewhere during the 1000 years the party will start to "die off", literally. Only those who maintain chaste, pure lifestyles, resisting these temptations, will survive the 1000 years. Condemned to experience another epoch of planet's history for their ignorant pursuit of xtianity, they will be the candidates used to (re)colonize (the next) Planet Earth, condemned to relive the misery experienced by the peasantry during history due to their failure to ascend into heaven before the Apocalypse. Never forget:::It is not a house of Jesus. If this concept of Lucifer is true another role of this individual may be to initiate disfavor and temptation among this new poulation, the proverbial "apple" of this Garden of Eden. A crucial figure in the history of any planet, he begins the process of deterioration and decay that leads civilizations to where Planet Earth remains today. Which one is it? Probably both::: One transitions into the other, allowing the gods to wash their hands of obligation to their Chosen One.
You are faced with a lifetime to work and prepare for your next chance. Too many will waste this time working, etc.
5 comentarios:
bacan leo
creo ke solo habia visto tus ilustraciones de humor antes
no habia visto comics
muy buenos compa
saludos!
sekooo!!!
SOBRE EL DEBATE FONTANARROSA VERSUS CRUMB
Parto confesando que al parecer aún necesito aprender a moverme en el laberinto facebook. En blogger me siento como en casa.
Formalmente, el artículo de Leo se lee fácil, es preciso y correcto ...la trampa está en querer determinar porqué un dibujante es mejor que otro. No caeré por segunda vez y mejor me comparo yo con Leo. Al parecer, yo le llevo unos años a Leo, porque nacíen 1908. Aún así, finales de los 70, los 80 y los primeros 90 fueron años que determinaron mucho mis gustos en cultura de masas que no es tan de masas. Ahora no parece tanto, pero tiempo atrás encontrar a un colega que cachara a Crumb, Fontanarrosa y Husker Du no estaba botado. En fin, oir que Crumb es taquilla me violenta, me descoloca, remece el frágil tinglado de micosmovisión.Creo que conocí a ambos muevelápices por la misma época y nunca se me ocurrió compararlos así. Recuerdo un comic de Fontana sobre unos mercenarios americanos en Africa donde recibían la instrucción que de ser capturados, dijeran que eran estudiantes japoneses en viaje de estudios. Luego otro que era una parodia de Conan o similar. Su humor literario me rayaba, me obligaba a aceptar sus licencias con la figura humana en el dibujo (Yo era de los que creía en las rígidas reglas del Dibujo Humorístico).Hasta que descubrí que el grueso de su producción parecía girar en torno al tema del fútbol. No soy argentino: me aburrí.De Crumb, claro, me atrapó el dibujo como anticuado, como de los años 30, pero vomitado por una sobredosis de drogas. Sus temáticas me parecieron intelectuales, como en realidad era mucho de lo que se hacía llamar under(¿Frank Zappa?Nunca lo escuché).Comparado, Fontanarrosa era arrabalero, barrial, nada de internacional. Lo suyo era un chiste interno para argentinos, uruguayos y uno que otro chileno.Efectivamente, Crumb es el mercenario yanki disfrazado de estudiante japonés en viaje de estudios FAKE, y su Africa, nuestra mente adolescente.Su detallismo entronca con la corriente eminentemente white trash del arte visionario, como en el pintor Joe Coleman.Y por supuesto que eso se vuelve finalmente un producto preciosamente loco y comercial, la combinación irresistible de la explosión "Low Brow".Fontanarrosa, en cambio, es ese argentino bonachón y divertido que nunca se tomaría tan en serio a sí mismo ni a su creación, su afán es hacer reir, y él seguramente cree que para los sudamericanos será inevitable también pensar(se equivoca). ¿Qué es mejor? No sé, finalmente puede que lo menos pretencioso,aquello que cualquier pibe o cabro chico pueda tratar de imitar.
Your job as a future mother is to learn the god's ways and to help your child understand despite the negative reinforcement and conditioning of today's society. Without consciousous parents the child will have no hope, and may even exaserbate their disfavor by becoming corrupted in today's environment.
Your ultimate goal is to fix your relationship wiith the gods and move on. You don't want to be comfortable here, and the changes in Western society in the last 100 years has achieved just that.
1000 years with Jesus is the consolation prize. Don't be deceived into thinking that is the goal.
The gods tempt people for which they are most weak. Artificial Intelligence will create desire in people's minds for the following sins:::
1. Alcohol
2. Drugs
3. Preditory "earning"
4. Homosexuality
5. Gambling
6. Something for nothing/irresponsibility (xtianity)
7. Polygamy/superiority over women/misogyny (Islam)
Much like the other prophets Mohhamed (polygamy/superiority over women/misogyny) and Jesus (forgiveness/savior), the gods use me for temptation as well. In today's modern society they feel people are most weak for popular culture/sensationalism, and the clues date back to WorldWarII and Unit731:TSUSHOGO, the Chinese Holocaust.
It has been discussed that, similar to the Matrix concept, the gods will offer a REAL "Second Coming of Christ", while the "fake" Second Coming will come at the end and follow New Testiment scripture and their xtian positioning. I may be that real Second Coming.
What I teach is the god's true way. It is what is expected of people, and only those who follow this truth will be eligible to ascend into heaven as children in a future life. They offered this event because the masses have just enough time to work on and fix their relationship with the gods and ascend, to move and grow past Planet Earth, before the obligatory xtian "consolation prize" of "1000 years with Jesus on Earth" begins.
The Prince of Darkness, battling the gods over the souls of the Damned.
It is the gods who have created this environment and led people into Damnation with temptation. The god's positioning proves they work to prevent people's understanding.
How often is xtian dogma wrong? Expect it is about the Lucifer issue as well.
The fallen god, fighting for justice for the disfavored, banished to Earth as the fallen angel?
I believe much as the Noah's Flood event, the end of the world will be initiated by revelry among the people. It will be positioned to be sanctioned by the gods and led for "1000 years with Jesus on Earth".
In light of modern developments this can entail many pleasures:::Medicine "cures" aging, the "manufacture" of incredible beauty via cloning as sex slaves, free (synthetic) cocaine, etc.
Somewhere during the 1000 years the party will start to "die off", literally. Only those who maintain chaste, pure lifestyles, resisting these temptations, will survive the 1000 years. Condemned to experience another epoch of planet's history for their ignorant pursuit of xtianity, they will be the candidates used to (re)colonize (the next) Planet Earth, condemned to relive the misery experienced by the peasantry during history due to their failure to ascend into heaven before the Apocalypse.
Never forget:::It is not a house of Jesus.
If this concept of Lucifer is true another role of this individual may be to initiate disfavor and temptation among this new poulation, the proverbial "apple" of this Garden of Eden. A crucial figure in the history of any planet, he begins the process of deterioration and decay that leads civilizations to where Planet Earth remains today.
Which one is it? Probably both:::
One transitions into the other, allowing the gods to wash their hands of obligation to their Chosen One.
You are faced with a lifetime to work and prepare for your next chance. Too many will waste this time working, etc.
ya pu leito y pa cuando el a todo cachete??
saludos....
kol
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